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Ridgewood Group — Investment Update (December 2010)

December 2nd, 2010 by Kaushal Majmudar

While the markets have been up and down as of late (though up big again today and yesterday) we are seeing unmistakable signs that the US and global economies are on the mend.   These signs include improving auto sales, increasing rail transport volumes, improving manufacturing activity, and some upward surprises in employment (though the latter being slower than ideal).The reason stock markets have been rising (more or less) since bottoming in March/April 2009 is that they anticipated the steady recovery that is now already well underway.

Despite unemployment, as we finish December and enter 2011, it seems almost certain that the economic recovery will continue to broaden and be felt more widely next year.However, investors as a whole are still quite bearish and still have a lot of cash earning low returns.  Since 2008, bond funds have had an unprecedented flow of cash into bonds and bond investments.  This reflects the consensus view of investors who have spent the better part of the last two years trying to run away from “risk” In recent weeks however, for the first time in almost two years, bond flows temporarily went negative.  We believe that there is evidence of a significant bond bubble well under way (we’ve said this before).  If you own bonds (especially long maturity bonds and municipal securities, etc.) be very careful about credit quality and duration of these income/bond investments in particular.  In typical fashion, investors have been pouring money into precisely the asset class (i.e. bonds) that probably offers the least value because it has been working well of late (i.e. chasing performance).  A recent article pointed out that the amount of inflows into bonds (albeit a larger class of securities) over the last 20 months has been greater than the inflow into technology stocks in the late 1990s which caused the dot com bubble that hurt so many.  Its not a perfect analogy, but the parallels should be informative to those thinking that “bonds are safe (and stocks risky)”There was also a lot of noise in the media about QE2 (i.e. the federal reserve’s quantitative easing program - essentially printing money to buy bonds).  We think it is telling (and not necessary negative) that since QE2 was announced and started to be used to make purchases, interest rates have actually risen (when the purpose of the Fed program was to drive rates down).     

Rates raising is due (partly) to investors recognizing that the economy is already recovering (with or without the Fed) and investors may start to weigh other factors more heavily in setting interest rates.  Rising rates is another strong confirmation that the economy is recovering.Meanwhile, several European countries, most notably Ireland, but also Spain, Portugal have again come under scrutiny due to the underlying problem of too much debt.  Ireland’s economy is only about the same size as the U.S. state of Connecticut.  Not big enough to cause a permanent problem for the global recovery now underway.  However, what is happening in Ireland can easily happen in other larger European countries that are similarly situated with too much debt - and probably will.  Ultimately, markets are going to force these countries to restructure their obligations.  In countries, unlike with mortgages, you cannot repossess and sell off assets when the country has trouble servicing its debts.  Lenders to those countries eventually may have to take write offs (unless the ECB is willing to keep printing money) and the implications for the European central currency which is shared in common between the stronger (mostly Northern European countries) and the Southern European (mostly financial weaker countries) has not yet fully played out.   

All of these interesting macro-economic factors are interesting to think about and relevant in the near term, but as Peter Lynch once observed, If you spend 10 minutes per year as a long-term investor focused on economic forecasting, you’ve wasted 7 minutes. Stocks, and particularly dividend paying value equities and value equities in general continue to be a reasonable place to keep long-term patient investment dollars that you do not anticipate spending in the short to intermediate term.  Although equities had a terrible ten years when measured by the S&P500 - value stocks as a whole did much better, and valuations are now more reasonable. It is likely that the next ten will be much better than the last ten (though not as good as the bull market of the 1990s). Year end is also a good time to revisit investment, tax savings, and retirement plan allocations and/or to set up a new retirement plan and long-term savings plan account if you happen to be in a position (in your own business or practice) to take advantage of the significant tax advantages that the US government wants to give you to encourage you to save for your own retirement. As we have consistently preached to our clients, there is no better way to become (and stay) rich and successful than to implement a program based on sound/long-term/value based investments.   As the cartoon below (see link) humorously illustrates, markets swinging back and forth day to day are often based on some irrational factors.  Needless to say, the irrational individuals depicted in this cartoon are not far removed from the millions of American’s who get sucked into the short-term cacophony of markets and thereby make unsound long-term investment decisions - and thereby don not enjoy any degree of success in growing (or keeping) their money. In the last three years, our clients have witnessed (first hand) that following the disciplined and intelligent principles we espouse actually works.  Now that our accounts have basically recovered from the temporary but traumatic downward volatility caused by the financial crisis (and well ahead of the overall market), we can look forward to some growth as the economic recovery continues.   

We believe it is a good time to begin or continue a disciplined/long-term investment program.  There are still wonderful opportunities to buy income securities, dividend paying stocks, and international value investments in growing emerging markets countries for the long-term.  Selling bonds and moving intelligently into these areas of opportunity are what smart/long-term value investors should be thinking about.  Besides the cartoon referred to above, we also include a handful of articles that touch on some of the themes above - for your consideration and reflection.  As always, we welcome your questions, comments, and referrals. 

Warm Regards and Seasons Greetings. 

Ken Majmudar, JD, CFA

http://tinyurl.com/Financial-Cartoon  

http://tinyurl.com/Ireland-s-Ripples

http://tinyurl.com/Byron-Wien

http://tinyurl.com/Hiring-Up

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State of the Housing Market

September 20th, 2010 by Kaushal Majmudar


The link below is an article that talks about the state of the housing market and how housing subsidies earlier this year may have been misguided (though well intentioned).  The article also provides a more constructive approach about what factors would be helpful to have a true and sustainable recovery in housing.  Of course one of the issues facing the housing market is that even though rates are low, underwriting standards are more stringent and collateral values have fallen, so a number of people that want to refinance or purchase a home to take advantage of historically low rates are finding that they are not able to do so.

Ken Majmudar, JD, CFA

http://tinyurl.com/WSJ-Housing-Mirage

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Low Interest Rates in the Current Economic Climate

September 14th, 2010 by Kaushal Majmudar

We have enclosed articles (see links below) that highlight some interesting aspects of the current economic climate. They discuss the current extremely low interest rate environment (courtesy of the Fed).  

The common theme on these articles is the unintended consequences arising out of policy decisions made by the Federal Reserve and by Congress.  Through the end of August, the summer has been characterized by renewed fears of a “double dip” recession. As a result, investors have been fearful of investing in businesses in favor of investing in long-term, government bonds.  To a great extent, investors are responding to their fears arising out of their recent traumatic experiences in investing in equities - both over the last few years, as well as, over the long-term (last 10 years).  In prior commentaries, we have noticed that the bond market (particularly on the long-end) may be a bubble that may ultimately create issues down the road.

The articles below suggest that in manipulating rates (in an effort to “goose” economic activity), the Federal Reserve is creating winners and losers.  In the losing column are the millions of retirees and savers who are earning little or nothing on their cash and bank balances while, at the same time, being fearful of equities and high yielding securities.  As a result of this, we’ve noticed that certain dividend paying stocks seem attractive relative to the alternatives.

In the winning column, however, are borrowers.  Corporations are refinancing their obligations at a rapid rate.  For example, On August 12, 2010, Johnson & Johnson raised $1.1 billion in new borrowings.  Half of the notes mature in 10 years and carry a rate of only 2.95% per year.  The other half mature in 30 years and carry a rate of only 4.5%.  Investors who are loaning money to them at these rates may be surprised (especially with respect to the 30 year notes) if, as is likely, inflation rises unexpectedly.

On the other hand, it is an excellent time to refinance a mortgage (if you qualify under today’s somewhat tighter underwriting standards).  At The Ridgewood Group, we eat our own cooking. I just refinanced my own mortgage about 30 days ago and got a 30 year amortizing mortgage at the rate of 4.375% with very low (approx 1%) points. (BTW, compare this rate to what you are quoted by your bank or mortgage broker - for the benefit of our clients, we believe we have found 2 of the lowest cost mortgage lenders in the country and we find that their rates (for borrowers with good credit) seem to be better than most of the other alternatives.  If you are thinking of refinancing and want a referral to these lenders, email or call us back to find out how you might be able to take advantage of their programs.

As a result of the above, my borrowing rate on the new mortgage is only slightly higher than what Johnson & Johnson has to pay!  For the astute among you, you’ll notice that the rate I pay on my 30 year mortgage is actually slightly lower - however this is not an apples to apples comparison - because my mortgage is amortizing and the J&J bond is not, the weighted average life of my mortgage is closer to 20 years than to 30 years, so the imputed rate that I pay is actually higher on an adjusted basis.   Also I had to pay a small amount upfront to buy down the rate slightly, but my payback on the buy down is less than 2 years given the savings in the form of the lower interest rate.

Ken Majmudar, JD, CFA

Links:http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/09/falling-rates-aid-debtors-but-hamper-savers/http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704103904575337282033232118.html

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The Market, Gold and Municipal Bonds

June 11th, 2010 by Kaushal Majmudar

Below we include references to two interesting articles.

The first is short and offers some recent thoughts from Warren Buffett that he provided at a private event to the author.  The second is an excellent and extensive discussion of the state of municipal and state finances and more specifically why municipal bonds may not be the super safe investments that investors currently assume.

 

The author of the first article met Mr. Buffett at an event celebrating a program to help reduce recidivism by educating people in prison - apparently we’ll be hearing more about this seemingly worthwhile program in the media soon.   At the event, he took the time to ask about Warren’s recent views on some of the “hottest” issues that investors are wondering about, including his views on the market and on gold as an investment.  Interestingly, Warren’s views are not dissimilar to the perspectives expressed and touched upon in articles sent out about a week ago in our last investment update.

 

The second article does an outstanding job of review the state of municipal finances and lays out a number of compelling analogies between municipal bond finance and the housing bubble.  In both cases, investors drew comfort from past history and ignored present facts to their peril.  

Warm regards,

 

Ken

 

Articles: 

 

 

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2010/07/06/mark-skousen-a-meeting-with-warren-buffett/

http://www.city-journal.org/2010/20_2_municipal-bonds.html

  

   

 

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Long Term Value Investing in Today’s Economy

June 1st, 2010 by Kaushal Majmudar

Included below are two recent articles that provide food for thought (actually counterpoints) to some popular views today.  The first article is short and points out something that most investors seem to be ignoring or not sufficiently focusing on - namely that the economy appears to be recovering rather robustly.

If sustained, the economic recovery in the US will be followed by increasing earnings.  Since earnings drive stock prices in the intermediate to long-term, concerns that resurface every time the market falls 10% may be over blown for those with a longer investment horizon.

The second article talks about gold as an investment.  As long-term value oriented investors, it is always a good idea to carefully examine and even question the popular consensus.  Today, that consensus seems to be focused most vocally on gold and fear based investments (like bonds) that in many cases yield extremely low (or in the case of gold) negative economic profits.  Essentially, investors en-mass are much more inclined to skip past investments (like the ownership of companies) that generate positive economic surplus in favor of “store of value” investment like gold and t-bills.  In a world in which the printing press is running, this approach makes some sense.

However, I am reminded of the popularity of the Euro a few years back.  As most of you are aware, the Euro has been quite weak recently.  But back in November 2007, the Euro was flying high and the dollar was considered unattractive.  In fact right around that time, super models like Brazilian beauty Gisele Bündchen decided that they wanted to be paid going forward in Euros (not in dollars).  It may be that one of Gisele’s advisors drove this demand for contracting in Euros, and it may even be that this policy was short-lived.  However, its interesting to note that back then 1 euro bought $1.46 dollars.  It peaked around $1.55 per euro in early/mid 2008 and again in late 2009 was back to around $1.51 to the Euro.  Since then however, the value of the Euro has plummeted (declining over 18% just in the last 6 months). Currently 1 Euro buys just under $1.23 (maybe a good time to book that European vacation).

In 1979, Buffett wrote a editorial during another time when investors, including pension funds were demoralized.  In one part of his letter he made an observation that is still just as relevant to us today. “The future is never clear; you pay a very high price in [investing] for a cheery consensus. Uncertainty actually is the friend of the buyer of long-term values.”

Warm regards,

Ken

Articles:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703957604575272872615235854.html

http://online.barrons.com/article/SB127508630235098425.html

 

  

   

    

  

 

 

 

 

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Is the Housing Market on its way to to a sustained rebound? Short Answer: Probably Not

November 26th, 2009 by Kaushal Majmudar

 There are signs of a bit of renewed activity and optimism - both among investors and the real estate market.  Equity markets are up more than 60%+ around the world and investors (at least psychologically) are breathing easier.  Recently released data shows the volume of new home construction and home resales picked up slightly over the last few months.  However, underneath this data, there are some troubling facts confronting people hoping for a quick return to normalcy and health in housing.    Like any other market, housing is drive by supply and demand.  There are signs of issues related to both.  On the demand side, the market has been “artificially” stimulated by at least two interventions.  The smaller of the two is the home buyer’s credit which was extended into next year, but will eventually end.  By far the larger of the two issues is that the Federal Reserve has “printed” (i.e. created from nothing) over $1 trillion of new money - much of it which has been used to buy mortgage backed securities in the open market thereby driving down the cost of mortgage financing.  While these interventions can continue into next year, the withdrawal of either of these props will immediately hit demand.  Although interest rates are low, qualifying for a loan is much harder than it used to be.  To deal with this issue, Congress has made the FHA assume significant amounts of credit risk - almost certainly, the FHA will eventually go the way of Fannie & Freddie in being unable to meet these guarantee obligations without additional tax payer subsidy.    On the supply side, new home construction is now well below the long-term sustainable/replacement level, so the excess inventory of homes built during the boom will eventually be absorbed though it will take 2 to 3 years.  The far the bigger worry, however, is that in markets around the country, a large percentage of home owners are “underwater” and through the mechanism of forclosure and sale, there are still many millions of homes that are in the “shadow” inventory - they will eventually come to market and depress prices further.    Though we are wary of making forecasts, it appears likely that housing markets (and commercial real estate) may eventually experience another leg down after a brief (and Federally manipulated) hiatus. 

   The article(s) below talk about this important issue and some of its implications.  The first article (One in Four Borrowers Is Underwater) discussed how large the problem for negative equity is among homeowners, including recent purchasers who thought they were getting a bargin.  The second article (Fear of a Double Dip in Housing) talks about the recent stats coming out of the housing market and some potential implications.     Ken Majmudar, JD, CFA  

Articles: 

 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125903489722661849.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125854971533953543.html 

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Shedding Light on Unemployment

August 12th, 2009 by Kaushal Majmudar

Unemployment is a major issue for our economy. Unemployment figures are already higher than the highest levels assumed in the very public “stress tests” of the major banks that occured in early 2009. The consensus expectation is now that unemployment will top 10% before it can even begin to improve. This decline in employment is a major headwind that will eventually need to be overcome before the overall economy can decisively improve and move back to a growth stance.
 
The article/opinion piece below (by Mort Zuckerman - billionaire real estate investor and publisher of US News & World Report) provides a good qualitative and quantitative review of various aspects of the unemployment problem and why the author feels that rising unemployment means that the economy is worst than people realize and will continue to be worse than many expect. Of course, in the near term, markets move on expectations and can rise or fall relatively quickly. However, the fundamental headwinds associated with consumers battered by bleaker job prospects has investment implications that will affect the timing and sustainability of any recovery in economy activity and investment values.
 
While we don’t necessarily agree that this issue means that a 2nd stimulus is necessary, we do agree that the consensus may be underestimating the long-lasting impact of these challenges. The economic adjustments necessary may last years not months as some hope.
 
Please feel free to forward these commentaries to your friends and colleagues who may have an interest in the material below. As always, we welcome your questions, comments and referrals.
 
Ken Majmudar, CFA

Article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124753066246235811.html

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Will the Feds need to bail out state and local governments next?

July 8th, 2009 by Kaushal Majmudar

Among the many issues facing the economy in the short to intermediate term, the precarious budgetary positions of state and local municipalities does not get as much attention in the headlines as a number of other issues.

Given the issues that California is currently experiencing with its budget (in the near term, the state is having to resorting to issuing IOUs to its vendors and recently Fitch downgraded California’s ratings), investors are becoming more aware of both the precarious position of many state and local governments hit by a combination of declining revenues and mushrooming costs (including pension and benefit costs)

The article below does a good job of highlighting some of these issues and raises the interesting and very real possibility of a rise in municipal bond defaults.  Many retail investors (shaken by the stock market) who have been fleeing to the safety of fixed income and municipals may not be fully aware of the risks involved in these investments as the state and local governments issuing these obligations undergo significant stresses.  

Moreover - as highlighted by the article below - a variety of companies (mostly insurance companies) will be significantly affected by potential looming problems and/or defaults in municipal markets.  Will the Feds have to ride to the rescue?  Read on below . . .  

Please feel free to forward these commentaries to your friends and colleagues who may have an interest in the material below.  As always, we welcome your questions, comments and referrals.

Ken Majmudar, CFA

 

The Looming Threat of Municipal Bond Defaults By Jim Ryan  July 6, 2009 

The arsenal of stimulus programs seemingly has stemmed the tide of capital market disasters and some think “green shoots” are taking root. But a new problem, perhaps even more daunting, is popping up: Municipalities across the U.S. have deep budgetary problems and the chance of default on their bonds grows every day. Recent estimates put the State of California budget deficit in excess of $24 billion, about a quarter of the size of the total budget, a shortfall that must be addressed in the next 30 days. What’s more, while California has become the poster child for the problem, many other state and local governments are in the same fix. Some estimates put the total shortfall for all state budgets at almost $170 billion. To be fair, some municipal bond holders are somewhat better protected than others. As pointed out in an article by Charles Schwab & Company, state general obligation bondholders in California are second in line for payment after mandatory education benefits are paid. Furthermore, because the bonds are backed by the full faith and credit of the state, alternatives such as raising state taxes to pay bond creditors is still possible and allowable under the California state constitution. However, payments from the state to local municipalities could be cut, endangering the ability of those bond issuers to meet their payments. Not all municipal bonds are state-backed general obligation bonds, and the spill-over effects from defaults at the state level to local government, especially those backed by only specific revenue districts, can be equally dramatic. Even if default never occurs, the credit rating of the bond could be cut, reducing the value of the bond in the near term. 

A Bailout Could Create a Moral Hazard As we have seen repeatedly over the past year or so, things can get out of hand rather quickly in our current financial environment. If the economy does not turn around and the employment picture does not improve soon, states will have less revenue and municipalities could run the risk of not being able to pay their bondholders. In that case the federal government will face a very tough choice. It could decide, as the administration has suggested lately, to do nothing. On the other hand, inaction seems out of step with the federal government’s recent habit of granting relief with a free hand. California alone accounts for about 12% of our nation’s gross domestic product, which makes it difficult for the federal government to look the other way while trying to prop up the national economy. It’s difficult to tell what the federal government will do, but the ramifications of a bailout are something to consider. The trade-off essentially would be between avoiding a potential near-term disaster and setting up further disasters down the road. 

If the federal government decides to bail out California it would be tough not to do the same across the nation. Many other states are in a similar condition and a weakening economy could set those wheels in motion. It might also motivate other states, scrambling to make ends meet, to curtail their current efforts to reduce deficits. Why cut spending if Uncle Sam will pick up the tab? The federal government would essentially be incentivizing state and local government to act irresponsibly, knowing that someone else would bear the risk. This would create a classic (and, in this case, massive) moral hazard. Impact of Muni Defaults on the Insurance Industry 

But if municipal bonds default in large numbers, financial markets will be deeply affected. Although the effects would be much wider, our focus in this article is the impact on the insurance industry. At the front line are the bond insurers. Already on shaky footing, they could see their capital severely diminished if municipal bonds defaulted en masse. Historically, about half of all municipal bonds have been insured by one of the major bond insurers like  MBIA (MBI), Ambac (ABK), Financial Security Guaranty, or Assured Guaranty (AGO). As of the end of the first quarter of 2009, the four major guarantors had gross municipal bond insurance outstanding of about $1.2 trillion. Bond insurance, unlike most other forms of insurance, does not guarantee to pay off the insured bondholder in total in the event of a default. Rather, the policies are structured to pick up the interest payment to the investor until such time as the bond default can be cured. Consequently, bond insurers have historically held relatively small capital against possible claims, understandably so given past municipal bond default rates. For example, the two leading bond insurers, Ambac and MBIA, only tout a total of about $25 billion in claims-paying resources to back a total of around $783 billion in outstanding municipal bond insurance. The reserves also stand behind another $350 billion in other more risky insurance that insures other debt instruments such as mortgage-backed securities. Obviously, these reserves don’t provide a cushion big enough to contain a large level of defaults. 

Other areas of the insurance industry would be affected as well. Insurance companies, particularly property and casualty (P&C), own about 15% of the $2.7 trillion in outstanding municipal bonds. Of the top P&C companies that Morningstar covers, almost 40% of their fixed-income investment portfolios are in municipal bonds as opposed to 3% for life insurance companies. The concern we have is similar in kind to the problems recently experienced by the life insurance companies. Life insurance stocks plummeted in the fall of 2008 as write-downs of fixed-income securities, mainly corporate bonds and asset-backed securities, threatened to wipe out shareholders’ equity. Because P&C companies are so wed to municipal bonds in their investment portfolios, a wave of defaults could have a similar, though probably less dramatic impact. 

Fortunately, P&C companies have a much greater equity cushion to absorb investment losses, which lessens the consequences of defaults, but it does not eliminate the risk. If the value of municipal bonds in our P&C coverage universe decreased 20%, for example, equity would drop 23%, on average. This would be a material but probably not life-threatening hit to the industry’s capital base. However, some P&C insurers have a larger portion of municipal bonds in their investment portfolio than others. Travelers (TRV), Chubb (CB), WR Berkley (WRB) and Mercury General (MCY) all have more than 50% of their fixed-income portfolio in municipal bonds so the effect would be worse for them. For this reason we have raised our fair value uncertainty rating on each of these stocks until we have greater insight into the direction of the municipal bond market.  Whether or not to assist state governments would be a tricky issue for the federal government. The issue is fraught with moral hazard compounded by the equally unpleasant risk of inaction. Hopefully the “green shoots” will take hold and the decision can be avoided. 

 

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Bond Market Reaction to US Economic Stimulus

June 30th, 2009 by Kaushal Majmudar

Dear friends and clients,

Starting in July 2009, we are going to be starting a frequent newsletter/news commentary initiative to keep our clients aware of recently economic, investment, or market related developments that may be of interest to them.  As an investment advisor and manager, I read a large volume of materials each day.  For the most part, the reading and thinking that we do is transparent to our clients.  You only see the results of our eventual investment decisions in your portfolios. 

 

We thought it might interest some of your to occassionally recieve a brief snapshot of some of the interesting articles or commentaries that we so from time to time.  Depending on how often we run into material that we think you might appreciate, we will send out a clipping between 2 to 4 times each month.  The first commentary (see below) talks about how rising interest rates in the market as a reaction to fears of excessive monetary supply growth (i.e printing money) out of Washington is already creating issues today because as interest rates rise, so do mortgage rates and the cost of borrowing over all.

Please feel free to forward these commentaries to your friends and colleagues.  As always, we welcome your questions, comments and referrals.

 

Ken Majmudar, CFA

 

Article:

 

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124364263595268139.html

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The beginning of the end for the easy credit bubble in real estate?

March 7th, 2007 by Kaushal Majmudar

We’ve been cautious about real estate (especially residential real estate) for a few years now.  As a firm that focuses on value investing (quality when it is cheap or cheaper) we tend to have a contrarian orientation.  To paraphrase Buffett, when everyone is greedy, we often feel fearful.  Over the last few years, real estate prices have risen disproportionately in comparison to levels that could have been justified by the underlying fundamental drivers like demographics and income.  The divergence has been fueled by access to larger sums of leverage from an increasing number of undisciplined lenders.  Predictably increasing leverage fueled increasing prices which then also lead to a reflexive (as in George Soros’ theory of reflexivity in markets) shift in the psychology of participants.

In the last few months, the nature of this poor lending has come to light, especially in the subprime space.  However, there is a good chance that there are more shoes to drop (or as Churchill once quipped, “This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning”).  Millions of americans today probably own more house than they can afford.  While incomes are rising, the unwinding of the leverage fueled bubble in real estate has probably only just begun.  As this purging/unwinding process picks up steam, there will undoubtedly be pain encountered by hundreds of thousands of borrowers and the institutions that lent to them.  Eventually, of course the Fed will respond to this deflationary headwind by easing and when it does, it will provide a bit of breathing room to the financial system.

Of course, the future is uncertain.  Large conservatively financed companies are generally out of favor and may holdup better if the above scenario is even partially right.  Being a value investor focused on purchasing these companies with a long-term view also doesn’t hurt.

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